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HDClone question

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:08 pm
by descartes_
I'm wondering if someone might be able to discern what is going on...

I recently used the free edition of HDClone 3.1 (great product, by the way) to transfer the contents of a smaller, 60GB HD to a 250GB. I did a hard drive to hard drive transfer, and everything seems to have gone pretty smoothly. However, my computer indicates that the new drive is the now the same size as the old one (only 60GB ), although under the property tab for the drive, it clearly recognizes it as being the new drive.

Any idea what's going on, or how I can get it to recognized the rest of the HD space? Any feedback would be appreciated.

descartes_

Re: HDClone question

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:52 pm
by Alex
As the entire content of the drive is copied, so the parition layout is too. This means, that the partition on the new drive states as: from 0GB to 60GB. Still there is approx. 190GB of space left behind the partition. You have two options how to integrate the new space into your system:

a) under Windows XP use "Computer Management" from the Control Panel to create a new partition on the drive (it should appear as a partially-filled rectangle, where the first part is the already existing partition, the rest is the free space), which would after a formatting process be accessible on your system via another drive letter (e.g. D:, E: or something of this kind). Under older Windows versions or other Operating Systems, you might have to use "fdisk" (or other related programs) to create a partition. You'd then have to format the new partition to make it accessible.

b) under Windows XP (if the disc is not the one you started your system from, i.e. you are still using the old disc to boot from) you can use again "Computer Management" to resize the current partition. In case you already boot from the new disc, other commercial Partitioning tools might help. A quick search on the net about "Partition Resize" or "Filesystem Resize" should bring up some programs.

hope this helps a bit,
Alexander


Re: HDClone question

PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:41 pm
by descartes_
That makes a lot of sense, and I was able to confirm the additional hard drive space available through the Computer Managment utility. Now it's just a matter of expanding the partition, or deciding to create a new one.

Thanks very much for the help!

descartes_

Re: HDClone question and warning

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:11 pm
by ehale
I cloned a 150GB IDE drive to a 320GB SATA drive using HDClone Free. The drived cloned perfectly, but windowsXP Disk Manager only sees the 320GB drive as a 150 GB drive. There is no indication of the missing 170GB in Windows. I tried Symantec Partition Magic, which did see the extra space, but Windows refused to see it after I created a partition on the unused space. Then I tried formatting the drive and installing a clean copy of windowsxp, but windows would still see only the 150 GB drive!
I tried using Western Digital's Software to reformat the drive, even a low level format, but windows still sees only 150GB! I tried Cloning an Identical 320SATA drive to the affected drive, But windowsxp still sees ONLY the 150GB drive! It appears that HD clone has Permanently changed my drive to 150GB. I will have to replace the drive if there is no other answer.

Re: HDClone question and warning part 2

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 1:19 pm
by ehale
I should add that I ran Chkdsk through windowsxp recovery console, and chkdsk reads the drive as "unrecoverable errors". I think this may be due to Partition Magic's failed attempt to partition the missing space. Western Digital's diagnostic software reads the disk as "no errors" though and Windowsxp Setup will install to the affected Drive, but only as a 150GB drive, and will NOT see the missing 170GB. Is there any way to UNDO the partition table change made by HDCLone and get my 320GB drive back?

Re: HDClone question and warning part 2

PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:26 pm
by Alex
As the complete paritioning information is stored in the first sector of the disc, zeroing this first sector would give you back your entire 320GB, though HDClone cannot do that (would be an excellent use for a Disk Editor...)

Still I don't understand why Windows doesn't see the additional 170GB. Have you checked in the computer management console? (Start|Run...|compmgmt.msc, then select "drive management", where every hard disk installed should be listed, together with the unallocated space, i.e. your missing 170GB ). Windows Explorer (or "My Computer") won't show the remaining space unless it's formatted and entered in the partition table.

In your case (if the thing above does not help at all and you really want to return the new drive to it's previous state) use some free disk editor tools and overwrite the first sector of the disc with all zeros. In this case make sure you write on the first sector of the disc, not on the partition (a windows-based tool should offer you both). The first sector of the Partition usually bears the name of the filesystem stored on it (sc. FAT12, FAT32, NTFS ... ), so if you find these, don't overwrite it (it would have no effect on the partition table). The first sector of a disc should have some strings in the form "Operating System not found..." or a similar message, which is output by the Computer, if the partitions lying behind it do not contain an OS...

hope this helps (a bit),
Alexander

Re: HDClone question

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:56 pm
by colin m
Hi, I used HD clone free edition on my sons Dell GX110 to copy the original XP installed C Drive to a new larger disk. Everything went well during the copy however when I try to use the larger disk with the XP copy imaged as the primary disk I receive the error message :

memory address line failure at 1800000C, read BFFFFFFF expecting FFFFFFFF

A disk read error occured
Press Cntl+Alt+Delete to restart

I have ran the Windows XP Recovery Console using

chkdsk - all ok
fixboot - all ok

Can you help.

Many thanks Colin

Re: HDClone question

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:19 pm
by Gene
Same thing happened to me going from a 20 GB drive to 250 GB. Windows XP has a DISKPART command that can be run by clicking the start menu and then clicking run and type in DISKPART then click OK. This program will let you extend the disk volume to fill unallocated space. Only problem is you cannot do it on the current disk. So you have to put the original disk back in the system as the master and make the new disk the slave. Then restart the system and it should boot from the master. Next click the start menu button, then click run, then type DISKPART and click OK. The diskpart program will startup. Type LIST VOLUME into the command line and press enter. All volumes on your computer will be shown. Then type SELECT VOLUME X where X is the volume number of the disk you want to extend. If you aren't sure which one it is, click the start menu and right click on my computer, then select manage. In the screen that pops up select disk management. Using the bottom right scroll bar you should be able to identify the correct volume you wish to extend. Next in the text screen type LIST VOLUME and make sure the asterisk is next to the disk volume you want to extend. Then type extend. The process does not take very long. Go back to windows and verify that the disk has been extended. Then shut down, remove the old disk, make the new disk the master and start back up. You may want to read up on DISKPART by clicking the start menu, clicking "help and support", typing diskpart in the search window and selecting the bottom "diskpart" in the list. Hope this helps.

Re: HDClone question

PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:11 pm
by D. Watson
I used HDClone 3.2.7 to clone C to E. E had been in use for other purposes before I did so. I erased all data on E prior to cloning. The copy began. Eventually it announced that it was complete. I tried to look at drive E using the DOS command prompt. The effort produced the error message "the drive cannot find the sector requested." I went to Windows Explorer and clicked on the drive E indicator there. The error message was "the disk in Drive E is not formatted." Drive E was a formatted disk that had been used for other purposes until I used it to HDClone drive C.

So what's up? (I sent this to the miray.de E-Mail address as well, yesterday. No response yet. Normally they respond rather quickly.

:-)
Don

Re: HDClone question

PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:49 am
by William
Hello There.
1. Right Click my computer...then Click Manage
2. CLick Disk Management (Now you can see the rest of your Hard Drive)
3. R.C "Unallocated" ...then Click New Partition
4. Click Next....Next and go to the rest to format

good luck