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HDClone 3.6 After Clone NTFS to NTFS, dist Disk is not valid

Post by Steen Nilsson » Mon Sep 08, 2008 9:50 pm

Hi
Just pay for the HDClone 3.6 Basic
After Clone, the Dist Disk is not valid and is not an NFTS anymore, it is now at RAW format, and it is total emty.

Anyone?

BR
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Re: HDClone 3.6 After Clone NTFS to NTFS, dist Disk is not valid

Post by Alex » Tue Sep 09, 2008 9:16 am

Sounds like a case for the HDClone support (http://www.miray.de/support). In any case it's important to know how you did the cloning process: disk->disk or partition->partition, and did you select automatic resize or automatic adjustment after copying?
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Re: HDClone 3.6 After Clone NTFS to NTFS, dist Disk is not valid

Post by Steen Nilsson » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:15 pm

Hi
Here is my setup.
source IDE HD,
from HD to part
Dest USB HD with two Part. Use one of them.

Dest is Aktiv before Clone

Try with and without select resize

After Clone, Dest pats is the same size as the Source, but without anny Drive letter and is not NTFA anymore, and 100% Free!!
????
BR. Steen
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Re: HDClone 3.6 After Clone NTFS to NTFS, dist Disk is not valid

Post by Steen Nilsson » Tue Sep 09, 2008 2:26 pm

Update.
HDClone from 80GB HD to 180GB USB part, with and without resize.
BR. Steen


alex Wrote:
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> Sounds like a case for the HDClone support
> (http://www.miray.de/support). In any case it's
> important to know how you did the cloning process:
> disk->disk or partition->partition, and did you
> select automatic resize or automatic adjustment
> after copying?
Steen Nilsson
 

Re: HDClone 3.6 After Clone NTFS to NTFS, dist Disk is not valid

Post by Alex » Tue Sep 09, 2008 3:08 pm

Anonymous User Wrote:
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> Hi
> Here is my setup.
> source IDE HD,
> from HD to part
> Dest USB HD with two Part. Use one of them.
>
> Dest is Aktiv before Clone
>
> Try with and without select resize
>
> After Clone, Dest pats is the same size as the
> Source, but without anny Drive letter and is not
> NTFA anymore, and 100% Free!!
> ????
> BR. Steen

if you copy a disk (HD) to one partition of the destination USB HD, the destination partition will no longer contain a valid file system, but it contains a complete disk image within this file system. Windows does not expect this: inside a shoe box (HD) you don't expect another shoe box, but a shoe (= Partition), so the partition is still there, but since instead of a file system a disk image is found, no drive letter is assigned to it.

You can copy the first partition of the source HD to the partition of the destination USB HD. In this case, you copy the shoe from one shoe box to the shoe in the other shoe box, and everything should be ok.

In this case, you can also use resize, which should work flawless.
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Re: HDClone 3.6 After Clone NTFS to NTFS, dist Disk is not valid

Post by Steen Nilsson » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:10 pm

Ok Thanks.

Soo Clone from HD to Part is not working? but u can select this combination in your program....

i like to use my USB HD as an backup device, so i can restor my winXP disk, if this go down.
Will this be possible, if i clone part to part? insted off HD to Part wish is not working?
Best Regards
Steen.
Steen Nilsson
 

Re: HDClone 3.6 After Clone NTFS to NTFS, dist Disk is not valid

Post by Steen Nilsson » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:43 pm

is Boot sector cloned if i ´only´ select source as part?
and well it work back again onto á new emty HD?

or do i need to clone from HD to HD if i want and complet kopi include 'boot?

BR Steen.
PS, thanks for your fast sup.


Anonymous User Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Ok Thanks.
>
> Soo Clone from HD to Part is not working? but u
> can select this combination in your program....
>
> i like to use my USB HD as an backup device, so i
> can restor my winXP disk, if this go down.
> Will this be possible, if i clone part to part?
> insted off HD to Part wish is not working?
> Best Regards
> Steen.
Steen Nilsson
 

Re: HDClone 3.6 After Clone NTFS to NTFS, dist Disk is not valid

Post by Alex » Tue Sep 09, 2008 4:53 pm

HD -> Part is only working because you can do a restore with Part->HD.

In all other cases, either Disk->Disk or Partition->Partition is the way to go.

The Boot Sector of a partition is always copied, if you're meaning the MBR (Master Boot Record, to be found on Sector 1 on the disk): the MBR is only copied with the Disk->Disk mode.

If you need to make a backup, you can use HD->Part. In this case all the contents of the disk are stored to the partition of the target medium, but windows cannot access it. If you restore it back using Partition->HD, everything will be back, including the boot sector and the entire system, so windows will access it again.

The only drawback to this solution is that you cannot access the data on the backup medium without copying back.

But there's still another solution: if you manage to make a small partition on the destination drive (some MB should be enough), you can copy a Disk image to this partition, which will contain the boot sector. On the larger partition you can store the normal data, access it later if you want, and play it back.

So do the following (giving you have a 2nd hard disk with at least 2 partitions, one ~1MB, the other 180GB:

copy disk->partition onto the 1MB partition, don't worry about all the other data not being copied
copy partiton->partition onto the 180GB partition

Now you can access your backup data on the 180GB partition

To restore:
copy partition->disk from the 1MB partition
copy partition->partition from the 180GB partition to the source partition.
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Re: HDClone 3.6 After Clone NTFS to NTFS, dist Disk is not valid

Post by Steen Nilsson » Tue Sep 09, 2008 5:43 pm

Great support, thanks Alex.
I will print this and store it, together with my disk, super.
I couldnt understand why i con´t see my new Dest/part under win. :-)
Best Regards
Steen
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